When his wife’s dementia became so bad that she asked him who he was and forgot simple things like how to get out of a car, Bernhard and his wife joined their first Zhineng Qigong retreat. Being a scientist by profession and seeing a full recovery within just five months of a disease where Western medicine says there is no cure, he asked himself, how is this possible? Here are the
answers. Answers he found. My name is Torsten Lueddecke, and this is the Wisdom Qigong podcast. Our guest today will also feature in the upcoming online course Heal Your Brain and Nervous System. If this is of interest to you, please find the link in the show notes. Today, I’ve got Bernhard Karrasch with me. Bernhard is a scientist in Germany. He’s actually a scientist in microbiology and biochemistry. Bernhard and
his wife had an incredible healing success with a disease that is, according to Western medicine, incurable. We’re going to talk today about this experience and how it links to the ideas of science and Zhineng Qigong. So, Bernhard, welcome to the show. Let’s start with this experience we had with dementia. So please give us an idea of what happened with your wife and what you did to resolve that,
please. Okay, first, hello to all of you listening and winning this podcast. Now to your question, Torsten. 2017, my wife showed different changes in her behavior and her cognitive abilities and movements, and at least the diagnosis was dementia. This means, from the view of Western medicine, no chance to stop or even to push the disease back. So it was clear for me that we would lose our contact
sometimes. She already was not able to recognize me, and she asked me then, “Who are you?” This was a terrifying and shocking moment for me. So I looked very desperate for a solution to help her. And at least as a chance, I got in contact with Zhineng Qigong. So we traveled to a retreat in Dali 2017, and then the unbelievable happened. During the retreat, she started to recover,
won back the control over cognitive and motoric abilities, and five months later, she was fully recovered. So this, it’s clear for me as a scientist, I want to know how this happened. So I started to research Qi as energy using quantum mechanics and other things. And more and more, I got the idea that we have two important factors which have a huge healing power: that’s Qi as energy.
Energy is information, and within Qi, the attractors or rules for the universe, as well as normal situations like biochemistry, etc. Are already written in. So we have, since the beginning of the universe, the idea that we can develop or life can develop and also the healing. Normally, when we are not disturbing the system with unnatural eating, stress, and so at least modern life, then we have not such
problems in getting disease. But we have, and so we have to look at everyone, at least to be sheltered from diseases, or when the disease is appearing, that we can at least heal us. This is the second, I call it healing will. It has a scientific name and is already accepted at universities. It’s a long name now, it’s a cycle neuroimmune endocrinological coupling. That means what we are
thinking is transported to nerve signals, neuro, and to strengthening or weakening the immune system as well as the hormone system, and these things together with Qi, it triggers the abilities of our body. We have 14 main abilities to repair our body and to renew as well as to heal our body, and so at least we have a switch, bringing us to healing or vice versa. Of course, if
you are thinking negative and you are suffering with stress, etc., this coupling can lead to diseases. It’s no secret that 85% of all diseases have a psychosomatic origin. So we can reverse this in changing our thinking and our behavior, lifestyle, then we can initiate the recovery and at least the healing. And this is, in rough and short words, what I’m doing now actively. So, to put it in
very simple words, what you’re saying is, and what we know is that the body has an inherent ability to heal. And the body responds to our mind, you know, our thoughts, and whatever the thoughts are, the body responds to it. So, if we have, you know, thoughts that are destructive, the body will create all these diseases. But the good news is that if we change our thought patterns
and give the right signals, we can also reverse and activate all the healing. Even in cases where, you know, Western medicine says, “Sorry, there’s nothing we can do and this is not curable.” Right? Like in the example of your wife, where within just five months, she came from a state that was, you know, really scary, or must have been very scary, to a place of perfect health. Exactly.
So that’s, yeah, I think it’s great to hear that from your mouth because you’ve looked into it from a scientific point of view, and you explained earlier to me that there are two kinds of people on this planet: the ones that, you said, find it easy to understand that and believe in that, so they automatically follow and get the healing. And then there are the people that don’t,
who would just look at the Western medication and say, “Well, I think I need pills or I need a doctor to do something to me in order to heal.” But it’s, it’s not true. And you’re trying to reach these people as well and say, “Look, this is science, science-based what we are, what is happening here. You might call it miracle healing, but actually, it’s a very simple scientific
concept behind that.” Is it fair to say that? Yes, yes, definitely. Very good brief summary you gave. Especially the point with psychosomatic diseases. If we have to account for 85% of all diseases only, and let me say the spirit, the thinking, because the others are genetically or by an infection or an accident, that means traumatic. At least all other diseases are produced by our lifestyle and our thinking,
and if we could change this, we have the best chance not only to recover but also to increase our life quality. Because mainly, people are only talking about diseases. But if you continue, for example, Zhineng Qigong practice, then you increase your lifestyle, your resilience will raise, and so on and so on. So you are even more happy and could also stay in fitness and wellness from the mind
and from the body. So, and this also should be mentioned: Zhineng Qigong or other things like Ayurveda and so on are also improving the life quality, right? And the protection, of course, against diseases. Now, that’s a very important point because most of us get to Zhineng Qigong because we have a serious health problem and we are looking for a solution. But this is, this is great. But the
contribution Zhineng Qigong can do to a healthy, happy person is incredible because, you know, it’s also about. You call it life quality, but it’s about how we go through life, how much we appreciate and enjoy every single day. That is what counts at the end. It’s not just these diseases that are obviously very serious and where we need to do something, but the body responds and our whole
energy responds to whatever is going on up there. Right, exactly. Yes, exactly. We have a way you can discover Qigong. So, at the Zhineng Qigong Student Hub, we know that understanding Qigong is very important and also that Zhineng Qigong in itself has various nuances that people can’t easily comprehend. So, we’ve approached it in the style of a video game. On this page, Discover Qigong, you can select your
character. So, you can either be a beginner, a practitioner, or a holistic healer or self-healer. And you click on your character, and it takes you to these different sections. In these sections, you can explore the nuances, and when you click on a card, all of the resources pop up. We’ve made it really fun, and not many people know about it. So, if you are interested, have a look
and discover Qigong. I’m curious because a lot of the listeners here will probably listen because they have someone in their close family or friends who is suffering from a similar disease, like dementia or any other brain-related malfunction. Can you explore a little more what you did, exactly what you and your wife did, so that you came to this relatively fast healing? Yes, I can. But first, a bad
point for the person who is suffering from dementia disease is they still have to have self-awareness, because the psycho-neuro and so on are not working or not working well. If you have no self-awareness, no will which you can formulate. And so if there’s, there’s then only the possibility with Qi, but external, that means, for example, teachers or Qi healers are making the treatment. But this is very time-consuming
then. But if there’s still self-awareness and the person is convinced to trust Qi or Zhineng Qigong and also their own body and mind, then just practicing Qi, already open-close, is very successful. What, in my opinion, also is important is to make some visualization first in the form of a picture, let me say a healthy, artful picture of the brain, where all is running quite well, clean, and very
active. And the second is, of course, to draw a picture to the future, to the milestone that the people have so that all the things, also the subconscious, are focusing on this. So all the energy, thinking, and also the power, and partly the discipline for making one or more hours of Zhineng Qigong every day, could be very helpful and, of course, winning back the love to life, the
love to partners, friends, and so on. So this is a full system which you need to be supported. Right. So basically, what you’re doing there is you’re reinforcing the message by creating a clear vision for how you would like your future to be, how wonderful it’s going to be, how your healthy brain will look like. So this is all something that reinforces the messaging and basically tells the
body, “Wow, yeah, this guy is serious about healing.” There is, there is an important, it’s important to get there and he’s got a clear idea of what this looks like, and then you’re using simple methods. You mentioned La Qi. That is a simple method, of course. Yeah, but when you talk about it, you need to also spend time with it. I think the main reason why you need
to do it is because during your exercise, you’re completely focused on the vision of health. While if you’re just doing it 15 minutes and then you’re back to your everyday work, your mind wanders into other directions rather than giving, you know, the clear and clean instruction, “I’m healthy now, I’m healthy now.” Right? Right, yes. Okay. So I think it’s not just the exercise as such that is important,
but the exercise also disciplines and creates a mindset that is so supportive and does this neuroimmune endocrinological, this long thing that you just mentioned or called healing will. I think that was just your short word for it. Yes. Yeah, exactly. This can be described in this way, and especially Zhineng Qigong. It’s not the manual things. So, at least this was also my observation, especially with my wife. She
was not able to sit, so she was in a very discomforting sitting location, and so she couldn’t really exactly follow the motoric things of Zhineng Qigong. But I discovered this is not important. We had a person who was a Tai Chi and also Qigong teacher, and for example, he thought he was safe with cancer, etc. But he got a brain tumor, and then he asked me, “Why? I’m
a teacher, I did it.” And at least I discovered that he was focusing on the exact movements. So, he left at least the healing perspective on his side, just focusing on making the movements exact. So the movements are not to think about. But if you, for example, put your brain between your palms and then make an opening, you have to visualize that your brain is getting greater and
greater. And with the closing, you are sending Qi in all directions to your brain image, and that it is being cleaned now. This is more important, and it’s not important how you manage the things manually. Just always working with your brain, and also with the meditation you have in Zhineng Qigong, you are switching on what’s called epigenetics. A lot of, let me say, positive or health-supporting genes, and
you are switching off the opposite genes. So, at least by getting into a calm state, you have a huge impact or effect on your body chemistry and body control. Yes, I mean that is another very important subject that you’re touching on when you talk about epigenetics. I mean, I’m not a scientist myself, but what I understand is that science these days has broadly accepted that the genes we
have are the genes we have. But which genes are switched on and which are switched off is influenced by our thinking, and we have control over that. Because earlier you said that 85% of diseases are caused through our psychosomatic factors. Right? And the rest are, you know, among others, genetic. But even with genetics, it’s not hopeless because which genes are switched on and off is still something that
we can control. So, with all of this coming together, I think it’s just so important that we understand that our mindset and how we go through the world is creating everything in our lives. Exactly. And it might be painful sometimes because it’s also creating the things we don’t want to take responsibility for and say, well, somewhere, somehow, not intentionally, but I’ve created that. And if I have, that
is good news because it means I can also reverse it, change it, and create something else. I think that is a powerful message here. It’s always wonderful to have someone to talk to who has a personal experience of that. So, I’m very happy about what you guys have created for yourselves—your wife, your family, your environment, and your friends. It’s great to have that on the show so people
can see this is not just something you read in books, but this is something that’s actually happening in real life. Yeah, I follow to 100%. So if somebody is in a situation like that and they have dementia or something similar, what would be your advice? What would you say? Okay, first thing, that’s what you need to know or need to do. Immediately Starting and learning Zhineng Qigong with
a teacher or at a retreat, and then practicing the techniques, is a great way to begin. Of course, I think if it’s not too much, I can offer support if anyone has questions about this. Also, when our book is published—first in German, but later in English and other languages—there will be a lot of insights into the mechanisms of our body and how to trigger, activate, and boost these
mechanisms. And also, especially regarding dementia, we have a lot of advice. But anyway, if there are any additional specific questions, I hope I can help, and I really want to help. That’s not the problem. So, concretely, what you’re doing right now, after your wife’s healing success, is saying, “Okay, I’m a scientist, I want to know exactly what happened here from a scientific perspective.” Right. And that’s what you
have explored, and this is what you’re putting into a book at the moment. So that everybody else can read up about it and learn from it and get inspired. Right. Yeah, exactly. Can you explore that a little bit more? You know what this book is going to be about and what the essence is going to be. So the asset is first to understand that the western medicine has
a lot of problems. I only mentioned one. They are not really healing, they are fighting against symptoms. But the origin of this symptoms is not cured nothing. Normally not so, and then we explain 14 main mechanism our body has. I only can give one number. When we are young, we are replacing everyday billions of cells. That means cells are at least killed, degradated and new cells from stem
cells arrive. So we at least have statistically at every three years a new body, right? And so already from this you can see what unbelievable power our body has. And for example, cancer is one of the easiest things our body can heal. For example, there we have had no experience about this. But my wife has had also in 2008. Breast cancer, and the only thing she did next
to the treatment of the western medicine, because we didn’t know that there are some other abilities. But she was able to remove 2.5 centimeter in diameter tumor with 3 months just or mainly by she got the point where the cancer is located. She could feel it with the fingers. And then she told her body and there’s something wrong in this place, please solve the problem, right? And. And
this she. She did repeatedly with every walk, enjoying the nature, but also giving the body or the immune system, in this case, the order to solve this problem. So, at least to dissolve the cancer. And now it’s clear, for example, also for children, they were told to make a kind of meditation and to increase their natural killer cells. It’s a special unit in the immune system. After this,
it was proven with blood and blood investigations that they improved. Just by thinking that they are improving this, they improved or at least raised the number of these cells. And it’s just another example of how powerful our thinking is, so that we also have total control over our immune system. Cancer is normally detected by the immune system and eliminated in the early stage. But when you are living
under stressful conditions, or you are unhappy, etc., then you are lowering the power of the immune system, and cancer can appear, also bringing in the resting effect on the whole body, at least. But as again stated, what can be produced with, let’s say, a bad attitude can be changed or reversed with a good attitude. And so it’s only knowing that and then also converting the life. I think
the example that you gave, when you said, “Okay, simply by imagining that the number of killer cells, or whatever cells that were in your body, in the immune system, would raise simply by thinking that,” giving that instruction, you could measure that the number of cells had actually risen. We are sitting here and think, wow. But it is actually so natural because it’s our mind that controls. If I
want to raise my right arm, my mind will give the order: “Raise your right arm,” and miracles happen. My right arm rises. Right? So we don’t think this is a miracle. We think this is normal. But, yeah, if we can do it with the arm, why shouldn’t we be able to do it with our… Yeah. With ourselves and with our immune system? It’s just… It’s just so, so…
I don’t know why people think this is so incredible, because, yeah, we do it all the time. We give directions to our body, and the body responds. So, you know, if we give a direction to the liver or to the heart, it will respond as well. There’s nothing, nothing weird about this concept. It’s just that somehow we think, yes, for some things like raising my arm, it’s easy,
but for other things like raising the number of blood cells, it’s difficult. Now it isn’t. It’s the same thing. We give the instructions, and the body responds. Easy. Yeah, yeah. And it’s… especially if it… if you make it a little bit more mystic, then you are saying you have a thought. The thought is without matter, it’s just energy. But you can control matter. That means your arm, your
muscles, and so on with just thinking. So we normally are thinking mechanistically. That means we have to lift a stone by… I don’t think. But it’s still the beginning is the thought or the will to lift to raise the stone up. And yes, so this is also… this cannot be treated now. But Qi as itself is from the quantum mechanical view, connecting all. So that means we, a
stone, a tree, the planet, cosmic dust, and other things are connected. Within this space, which connects all, there are energy fields. For example, the zero-point energy of the vacuum. It’s a quantum mechanical term at least. But energy always has information, and at the beginning, I mentioned that already in the universe, for the natural constants we have, this is all stored in the vacuum. And the vacuum is also
the vacuum between the nucleus and the electrons. Because 99.9999% is space, also in atoms, also in us. So at least we are vacuum beings. And the other thing, which is also important, I just mentioned it, is that we are 99.8% energy because we have quarks and the nucleus which keep the nucleus together. And this is the energy of 99.8%. Only 0.2% we are matter, but this means we
are energy beings. And this also means energy. We have at least waves you can get in resonance. You can communicate with energy, at least also between our relationships. We definitely feel immediately, this is a good person, or it’s not interesting for me, etc. So we are always in response and with information and energy. And for this, just to give a first idea of Qi. Qi is also energy,
and it has the rules of the construction of the universe. It’s like a chess game where the rules—you can have different moves, but the rules are determining how chess can be played. Right? And that’s the same for us and for the universe. So, also, if you combine now Qi and the long word starting with psycho, then you have the best combination to influence your body in a good
or also bad way. And so, if we use it, or everyone who uses it, has a relatively good chance to live a very happy, nice, and content life. And if a disease should appear, then you also can use this to fight or to heal this disease. So at least it’s not a miracle. It can be explained with science and in a medical way. At least we should celebrate
that we have these opportunities for us and our loved friends and family. I think these are the perfect and wonderful closing words because it’s a very. It’s a beautiful message we have here to everyone out there, and I would like to thank you very much, Bernhard, for this podcast. I’d like to take you on again when your book is actually available so that we can talk a little
bit more about the essence there and give people a possibility to benefit from your experiences. And for those of you that are listening right now, right after this episode is published, you’re also going to be part of a workshop next week organized in cooperation with Teacher Wei. And people can find all the details on our website here at the Zhineng Qigong Students Hub. They can register here if
they’re interested. And yeah, I’m glad you will stick around. I’m glad people can benefit from your knowledge, your studies, your research, and your personal experience. So let me thank you once again, Bernhard, and I hope to see you on the show once again very soon. We trust you enjoyed this conversation and invite you to subscribe to our podcast so we can stay in touch and notify you of
future episodes. We will end today’s episode with the Eight Verses Meditation, performed by Zhineng Qigong teacher Katrien Hendrickx. Enjoy. To get your free eBook on the Eight Verses Meditation, please check the show notes below.