“Even the patient doesn’t realize that talking is resolving issues because during case taking, you enter the unconscious.”

In traditional medicine, the focus is often solely on treating physical symptoms. Dr. Aditya Kasariyans takes a more holistic approach, integrating Western and Eastern philosophies. As an MD practicing homeopathy, acupuncture, and Zhineng Qigong, she views the body, mind, and spirit as interconnected.

In this episode, Aditya shares how she taps into the energy matrix underlying a patient’s condition, reading the unconscious through dreams, fears, professions, and childhood experiences. She describes using multiple modalities to clear obstructions at every level, from physical to ancestral, and the importance of an unprejudiced presence for true diagnosis. Aditya discusses how talking can initiate profound healing.

Through powerful case studies, Aditya demonstrates that complete cure is possible, even for terminal illnesses, when treating the patient’s vital force (Qi) as the primary condition.

Join Dr. Aditya Kasariyans in “Wisdom Qigong Uncovered” with host Torsten. They explore Zhineng Qigong and its transformative impact on mind, body, and spirit.

The founder of Zhineng Qigong, Dr. Pang, envisioned a future where Western medicine and Qigong work hand in hand. Now, what does it actually look like when the doctor integrates Qigong with homeopathy, acupuncture, and Western medicine? And not only that, Dr. Aditya Kasariyans uses all of her senses to pick up the intangible in a patient, incorporating the environment and even past generations. My name is Torsten Lueddecke, and this

is the Wisdom Qigong podcast. Aditya, welcome to the show. Hello, Torsten, hello, Internet, how are you? I’m so glad that I’m here today, waiting after so long, and I’m ready just to have a very nice conversation together. Perfect. So please let us know, in which way you use all your knowledge to treat your patients, or what your approach is when somebody comes into your practice and says, “I’ve

got this or this illness,” how do you approach your patient? Okay, so because my first and cornerstone of education, apart from my Western medicine, is homeopathy. So during the years, especially the methods that I have been practicing, have trained my five senses and also the sixth sense, which in Chinese philosophy is called the thought, are very much cultivated, so that when the patient comes, before even entering, you

start to perceive things about them. So this is a concept that, after a while, you cultivate also in Zhineng Qigong, or I think, I believe, in any qigong schools if they are practiced very deeply, it is the side effect of any good internal practice. But that’s what I believe, and also I believe that medicine is also an internal practice. So when a patient enters, from the way they

walk, they talk, they look, you start naturally to understand things about them. But the beauty that, as I said, I have received from homeopathy in the first place, is that we believe in, unlike this Western medicine philosophy, we see the person not as a completely closed system which is not related to the outside world. We see it as a system that is very intricately related and in constant

interrelationship with other parts of creation. So we have the ability to impact, but we are also very susceptible to being impacted, even though we are not aware of it. So the huge problems that we have, and also the need to visit a physician or a consultant, for example, a psychologist, are due to any problem that happens in the physical, mental, or emotional plane. The reason is that these

changes are happening very subtly in the areas of our being that are not in excess of our conscious mind. Because if it were, for example, if you have a headache, you could say, “Torsten, you have a headache, you shouldn’t have a headache,” like, “These arteries are like, I need them to get narrowed, so my headache comes down.” But it doesn’t work like that; otherwise, we didn’t need doctors.

The reason is that because of these very unconscious and intangible relationships that we have with all of creation, the whole impact and our susceptibility. Because if, for example, you are aware that something comes to attack you, then you will have a guard, you will be ready. But because we are living, firstly, in a very energetic and intangible matrix, we are absolutely open to whatever comes to us. So

suddenly, we land with a lot of problems that we don’t know where they came from and why we are not able to treat them, because they are happening at our unconscious level, which is unfortunately the huge part of our being. So what I love about homeopathy, acupuncture, or Qigong, all these internal practices based on Eastern philosophy, is that we address the intangible part first, because what changes the

imbalance happens first in that matrix, and then it comes and gets translated into the physical plane. If they are not tended to on time, like the Qi, which is, Qi has several… I mean, when we call Qi loosely in Western translation, we call it energy, but Qi is not energy. Qi is also matter. So it’s a spectrum that, from one side, it is intangible, absolutely not visible, to

a very dense, visible thing, a very visible concept, which we call everything Qi. So when this problem, that is this disharmony that happens at this intangible level, is not handled properly, then it starts to get more dense, denser, denser, denser, up to the level that we can see it on the physical plane. And unfortunately, then that is the time that people feel that, “Oh, I have got a

problem.” But no, that is the fruit of the problem. The problem has started long before. So what we are trying to understand in our patients, like I said, my main treatment part is homeopathy, is to understand in all planes, what are the imbalances of what we call the vital force, that it shows itself in your dreams, in your fears, in your profession, even in the profession that you

choose. You suddenly open your eyes and you see that you have chosen an absolutely imbalanced one. But the question, the thing that I have to tell now, despite these, I have many patients that come, and I can see that, oh, how come they have chosen their profession? And this is absolutely compatible with the remedy of their imbalance. But that also is their very strong point because it is

from that point that they can, you know, use their potential to fulfill their mission in life. Very good, I understand, I understand. My question to you is, do you need to actually identify the underlying issue? Do you need to, because you said it’s all happening in the unconscious, or most of it is happening in the unconscious? Do you need to be specific and say this is the reason,

or does your energy work, you know, basically just clear the clouds, clear the energy? How specific do people have to know what the underlying problem is of their disease? Mostly, the people do not understand the underlying problem. Sometimes it’s interesting. Maybe out of 30 or 40 patients, even the case-taking session, which usually takes two to three hours, is enlightening enough that the problem, even though physical, totally gets

managed for a huge long time. So I have a few patients that they cannot tell you, “Okay, I got like this. I know this is my problem.” That doesn’t happen. But kind of mirroring happens that you are in front of your problem. And in homeopathy, we have the similar cures that are similar. So, like, kind of you become your mirror and things start to happen. So I don’t

even need to prescribe any medicine. So in those times, I say, “Okay, we just wait.” And sometimes we have waited up to one year for the patient to actually need a physical remedy. But the point is that I have to know where the problem comes from. Otherwise, especially in pathology cases, you will certainly fail. I say 100%. Certainly, it will be a failure if you do not know

where the problem comes from. It will be blind work because, of course, energy will change during any good treatment. But something that has turned into matter, like MS, deep pathologies like diabetes, or, for example, renal failure or deep cardiovascular disease. Anything that you see really as a matter change, you have to be very sure of the steps that you are taking. Otherwise, you will surely have a relapse.

The thing is that we have to very much, this is very Qigong and Chinese medicine idea, that we do not only hold our imbalances, we carry at least three generations before the unfunctional or dysfunctional, I don’t know the correct word, patterns. So, for example, you, I don’t know if you have heard. For example, they say, my patient says that my mom’s grandmother had obsessive compulsive disorder. Nobody in

between has it, and this child has it. So how does it happen? It happens because we shouldn’t forget that in treatment we have the patterns of three generations, at least before, that will impact us. So, as I said, in pathology cases, we really have to know what we are doing. Also, very interestingly, I have to say, which I think might be of benefit to my colleagues also in

Zhineng Qigong. I tell it as an example of one of my patients, which was very interesting for me. A patient of mine, about 30 years old, came with a retinal problem in her right eye. So when I started to navigate and we asked about childhood, we asked about, for example, fears, dreams, everything. So out of the blue, she said that her grandparent, who died very early, had glaucoma

that resulted in blindness in his right eye. And interestingly, this person’s wife, meaning the grandmother, in her childhood had an accident where a stick had entered her right eye and blinded her. So that was just a story for this patient of mine, who was only two years old then. But it is interesting, even knowing or seeing the information of that incident, that had resulted in blindness in the

right eye of the grandparents, it had resulted in a pathology of the retina out of the blue in her right eye. So that is how our unconscious world works. And it’s very important that we can really tend to it. We are capable and armored, at least to understand that, okay, this part is coming from which part? And if I’m going to have a persistent and complete cure, I

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very interesting example because if I understood you correctly, you’re saying that in your patient, where this retinal problem came out of the blue, there was nothing really happening physically. But the problem was there, that this patient was picking up the information from the two other generations who both had a problem. And it’s kind of the unconscious says, “Oh, I’ve got a problem with my right eye. I need

to,” so this is why I can’t see properly. This is why I developed this retinal issue. Now, if you know that, if you find this out in the conversation, how are you resolving this? So actually, then I have to, I just go to my homeopathy part mostly because we have this. Apart from the remedy that we give to this person, which, based upon the patterns that we currently

see, we also have the remedies that we need to prescribe as intercurrent remedies to address the problems that come from previous generations. And they have their own specific categories of medicines. So these are the things that I really have to address, actually, from a Chinese medicine point of view because I have just incorporated it into my practice. And actually, I have to say it is very difficult to

have both TCM and homeopathy in your brain. And I’m just very slowly, slowly incorporating that into my practice. But right now, I cannot say exactly how, from a Chinese medicine point of view, these patterns that come from old generation are going to be addressed. I have colleagues who can probably say more about it. In homeopathy, we have medicines that we need to prescribe. Otherwise, even though this patient

comes and says, “Okay, you gave me the remedy, and I’m seeing much better,” I have to wait for a relapse because I haven’t cleared that layer right. So I hope this is a brief but maybe meaningful concept because we have to take it very seriously in any kind of treatment that we do. Patients come, and when I previously visited a few places that were doing very deep energetic

work. And I could see the healings in front of my eyes, and they were brilliant. But among them, there were people who had very severe relapses after a while. They would come after a year with a relapse and then die. That was always my question: If a healing was a healing, why should this happen? Then I started to see that it is not only our patterns. Imagine that

this girl was only two years old when the grandparents died. So people think that as a child, we are just a child. But the point is that all our senses are wide open to grasp all information. Even the patient, when she was telling me this story, didn’t notice that. That was the beauty: she didn’t notice. She was saying that the problem was in the right eye. Then she

had the problem in the right eye. And I said, how beautiful the unconscious works. Because as an observer, I can see why she is not able to see. That is a very powerful example, Aditya. And what you mentioned here is something that comes up often in the community because we know that when we work with Hunyuan Qi Therapy, for example, or with Qigong or with any kind of

Qi healing, we very often have incredible results. And for some people, it just stays forever and they stay healthy forever. And others have these relapses. And then the big question is, well, how come? But I think you explained this beautifully by saying, yes, you can do a lot with energy work in the moment and transform something, but if the underlying cause hasn’t been dealt with, then, you know,

once you let go of the practice and continue with your normal life, the issue will just come back and create whatever was there in the first place. And then suddenly you realize, oh my God, this illness or disease has come back. And so the point with the underlying cause is really something that I think we all should put a lot of attention to. But what I understood when

you first started, and please correct me if I got that wrong, is that in the conversation that one has with a patient, a lot of the information is mirrored and I learn about myself in the conversation. And sometimes that already resolves the issue. Now, would you say this kind of resolution is also permanent? Or would you be worried and say, okay, we’ve resolved it now in the conversation,

but we need to go a little deeper. We need to see what else is there and clear that up as well. If you allow me, I think examples will be more explanatory. So I never actually, I never just decide that, okay, to this patient, I will not give a remedy. I will wait for one month to see what happens. Sometimes during the case taking, despite the patient not

even knowing what’s happening, she’s just narrating. It is not a, mostly every patient says that they are feeling so good after we have talked to you, despite it not being a consultation, a psychology consultation, but kind of touching the unconscious part actually is the start of healing. So I have to say that sometimes upon my own, like some feeling in my heart, I say that, okay, let’s wait.

I feel that something will change in this person after just by itself, without doing anything. But I don’t leave the patient for one month. I say, okay, tell me how you’re feeling after one week. And then after a week, if I feel that okay, now things have started to happen by themselves, I’ll give enough time, one month. Every follow-up, even though I don’t prescribe any physical medicine at

that time, happens every three months to one month. I do not leave the patient, but every time I decide if this person needs a remedy or should I wait. It has happened that I remember a patient who was sent to me because of very, very, very severe vertigo. She was brought in, and the people were holding her from her armpits. She told me that she had gone to

a neurologist for the last two years. But this severe vertigo was not leaving her. So I took her case and I knew the remedy, but somehow I felt that I wanted to do a Qigong therapy for her. I found my place, also based on how it cuts to my heart, where I placed myself towards the patient during the treatment. Obviously, she couldn’t move that much. She sat, and

I stood behind her. And I naturally put my hands on her shoulders just to calm her down, like, “Just close your eyes.” The moment I put my hands, the whole world started whirling around me. I felt like I was in a centrifuge device, just moving. The world was moving around me. Then I said, “Okay, just…” I took my hands away, and everything stopped. When I put my hands

back, everything started moving again. And then I started to clear up the meridians. At that time, I didn’t know much about the meridians, but now I speak of them. Back then, I started in my own way, just connecting to the source of healing. I think I waited for about 30 minutes, though I don’t remember exactly. But finally, everything stopped. The moment I put my hands down, I no

longer felt that vertigo around me. I said, okay, I’m not going to give any medicine now, although I know her medicine. Let’s see what happens. The vertigo went away for, I think, two years after that. I haven’t met her, but for two years, she didn’t even need the remedy. Also, there are patients that for six months, I don’t give them a remedy because the first session was so

healing by itself that even physical problems went away. So I say I wait. But I do not fear that the symptoms will come because they will come. It is inevitable that things get resolved that easily. I shouldn’t take it that easy. I think, as a practitioner, I’m a little bit OCD about how I practice. Actually, I always take the other side, that I have to take my steps

very correctly. So I’m not afraid that the symptoms will come back because I know they will come back. Because a person is not made of one layer. We have many layers that need to be addressed. And this one point that is very interesting to note is that maybe I have a headache, which is. If you think of it like an onion that has many layers, imagine that in

the first layer there is this migraine. So with any medical treatment, like homeopathy, TCM, or Qigong, anything. Then I’ve taken it superficially and I have forgot that we have other layers. And I have just treated this very superficial treatment. Then everything that the patient will say that I’m feeling very well, but this headache will staying there and telling that you have this layer still staying here. The second

point is that maybe that layer is that migraine is very much anchored to very deep areas of this person, maybe to previous generations. So maybe if I give the remedy now, the patient is much better. Think that the patient has come with five symptoms. Four or three symptoms get better with the first treatment. For the first two years, she’s very good. This headache and, for example, bloating, they

are better, but not completely better. The intervals of my headache have increased. But like maybe instead of every week, I have a headache once every two months. Then you continue and say, after two years of treatment, these two symptoms are still there. So something is happening and I have to be cautious. So either I have not prescribed the correct remedy from the start, I mean, from the beginning.

Because we have a lot of modalities that can cure, I mean, heal the patient superficially. Maybe from the beginning, I have not prepared the correct remedy. Maybe if I had been more conscious and cautious, I would have prepared and diagnosed a remedy that covers all these five symptoms. But it also happens that I have done my job well and three symptoms are related to the superficial layer. And

I have to take the case and see if there is another layer that needs to be addressed. Because some infectious diseases that happen during childhood also leave their traces and create another level of disease. Layer of disease that needs to be addressed separately. So maybe that headache I have now is related to that level, or no, maybe it is related to the level of my previous generations. So

these understandings come in every month’s follow-up. As much as you start to know your patient and also you know your relationship with your patient, how unprejudiced you are when you sit in front of the patient. That is the first and foremost advice that the founder of homeopathy has told us, that the physician should be very unprejudiced. Because the moment that you think, “okay, this is the problem,” that

is where you will fall. You have to just be very open to see where these problems are coming from. And also, never forget about childhood. All our brain connections happen during childhood. So maybe upon a very, very funny but emotionally heavy incident that happens in one’s childhood. It shouldn’t be a very gross thing like a rape. It can be only a vase of flowers falling down. And a

huge sound comes. Just that fright for a child is a huge thing. So that can make a pattern. So nobody should forget about one’s childhood. And the treatment you do then, Aditya, is… So for example, in the conversation, you discover. Let’s take this vase as an example, the vase falling down. Would you then treat it with a homeopathic medication so that this memory kind of loses its power

over your patient? Or how are you dealing with these things? Or is talking about it, becoming aware of it, enough to resolve it? Sometimes the talking itself resolves it. Even if the patient doesn’t know that the talking is resolving it. Because when you are case taking, you enter the unconscious area. It is not a conscious conversation.. It is absolutely an unconscious-based conversation. We are using words, but it

is an absolutely different space. But also, for me, it is important. Maybe the patient doesn’t understand that that was the incident. So I don’t say that. I choose, for example, in the incident of that girl with the retina problem. I tell her, “Okay, so the injury for the grandparent, this is the remedy I have to give her, no?” And even coming to that layer means that I am

on the right track with my case taking. Whatever is happening is healing. And still, it doesn’t mean that whatever I prescribe will cure the patient. It is not I who have to decide the correct remedy, but these are hints that show me that I am taking my case into the core of the unconscious in a good and correct place. So during that, anything can happen, and spontaneous healing

can occur or not. Even if the patient doesn’t say, “I have just transformed, I’m transformed,” I am 100% sure that the healing has already started. I have to tell you something very, I mean, I have this patient, and it gave me goosebumps last week. What happened? She came to me for very, very severe depression after she had her child about nine years ago. She visited a lot of

physicians, both homeopathic and Western medical colleagues, but she was not getting better. So, the first few times, that’s also a question for me. I’m just saying this out loud because I gave the medicine, and I knew, for some reason, that it was correct for that time. But we had a relapse after two years. Then we had a good response to the medicine, but then another relapse after two

years. So now, when I look at her case records, I see that I’ve done everything very correctly each time, but we had the relapse. So it means that the depression stems from a much, much deeper level. I have to reach that deep. Something interesting happened last year when I took her case. She was very good for about a year and a half. Absolutely excellent. No symptom was left,

not even one minute. During the conversation, she started talking about a willow tree beside a river. So that was something that came up. In one of the methods that I practiced, we searched for patterns in childhood scenes. I then asked, “Okay, where else have you seen this willow tree with this river underneath?” So she said, “Okay, in my grandfather’s house, grandfather’s village, in some other city.” After reviewing

the whole case, I finally prescribed, I mean, obviously a good remedy at that point, because she was absolutely fine without a minute complaint for a whole year and a half. Then she had a relapse. This time, the relapse came with a trigger from outside birth. After one month of just changing the doses, I said, “Okay, now we have to retake.” And then about three or four months ago,

I started to prescribe a remedy that is now obviously the correct thing for addressing this layer. But last month, she called me and said, “I am very VP because I’m remembering some things from my childhood, and I have to tell you about that, why my mother did this to us as her children.” I said, “Okay, what?” She then narrated two stories: their father had died, and the mother

was taking care of four children. She was not able to handle both the outside work and the inside work. And she was the youngest. But the very, very interesting thing that she said gave me goosebumps. She said, “I don’t know why my mother took us to see this execution scene in the city.” I asked, “Where?” She said, “There was a willow tree with a river underneath. That was

the tree where the execution happened.” And I thought, that was the willow tree. The pattern that was created in her childhood was not from the willow tree and the river in her grandfather’s village. It was this willow tree. At that time, she was not remembering. And despite that, she was not doing well in that session; she was just weeping. I said, okay, I’m not repeating the remedy because

the remedy is doing its work. It is just bringing up, you know, the flesh out of the unconscious, even though she doesn’t understand. Because I had that case, now I know that this is a very, very invaluable thing that is happening to her. So at that time, I waited. She was not well. It doesn’t mean that every time it happens. It is very important for us as practitioners,

my colleagues, to have patience when treating someone. Sometimes the patient comes and says, “I am fabulous.” You might decide that you need to repeat the remedy. It is upon your perception of the five senses that you decide, not only on what the patient says. On the other hand, but most importantly, sometimes the patients say that they have a headache, that they’re not feeling good, but you do not

find any clue that you need to repeat the remedy. You just need to wait. Because all the trash that comes up doesn’t need to be, you know, suppressed again. It needs to come out. So why don’t we allow it to come out enough? So what I’ve also learned in homeopathy is that when you have doubts, you just wait. If you’re not sure that this person, in this session,

needs any kind of treatment, you just wait, give some time, and see what comes up. That’s all very, very interesting, Aditya. And I think you’re bringing together a lot of different ideas and wisdom in one practice because you’re really using all of the skills and all of the wisdom from various parts and combining them. And you know, something that also makes it very special here, if I might

say so, is that you are a very receptive woman. So when you say you can receive this information, you see things in people and with people, and you trust your intuition. And now, that is not something a lot of practitioners, a lot of doctors do because they’ve learned, okay, this is the problem, here’s the solution. This is the problem, here’s the solution. It’s not a mechanical thing, really.

It is far more than that. And I must say, I mean, it’s very impressive. And I don’t know many doctors who work like you. And so this is a wonderful thing. And as far as I know, you’re. You’re working, taking patients in your practice in Iran, but you’re also doing some online work. Is that a possibility, or is it more difficult for you to use your senses and

your intuition? So please tell me a little, you know, how that would work or whether there is a difference? No, absolutely. I have brilliant treatments online also. I think what I believe, as I told earlier in medicine, for me, is an internal practice. It is my, you know, what you say, my praying. I don’t know what you say. And that is what I believe. I do not say

that, you know, people who come to Eastern medicine think that all Western medical practitioners are. No, no, no. They are very mechanical. My very good teachers are from Western medicine because of the quality of the person who they are, for the heart which is very open for the patient. You see that love that comes, and that is more important for me and my practice. But this is actually

inherited from my family. But in my heart, I have room for every single person to heal. You know, it is such a special place that everyone has. If a person sits in front of me or we are connected virtually, I don’t feel that the distance has caused any problem or interference. It has never caused such a thing. And this intuition comes with time and practice, not intentional practice

where I want to progress my intuition. No, your constant practice and your persistence make you a better version of yourself, a more efficient version of you. Then, based on the needs and requirements of the mission you have, things will download by themselves into your being. It is not something you do, they will happen to you. They are just grace that comes to you. That brings me back to

your fundamental idea of Zhineng Qigong, that we approach everything with an open heart and an open mind. And I think if we take that approach, then it is easy to be intuitive. It is easy to understand what’s going on with the other person. And I think you’ve just integrated that into your work in a very beautiful way. So, Aditya, that was a great, brilliant conversation. I can’t thank

you enough for that. I think there’s a lot of wisdom here, and I hope that the listeners will all benefit from that. And obviously, we’ll leave the details on how to get in touch with you in the show notes. So if everybody feels like this woman could be someone who helps them with whatever is going on in their life, feel free to get in touch, and yeah, I

hope we’ll have another conversation very soon. Send all my love to your family. I know you’ve got a fantastic family back home, which is also obviously a blessing, and I’m sure they’ve played a big role because you were talking about past generations. I’m sure they’ve passed on a lot of the skills and the beauty of who you are as a woman to you. So send my regards to

her and to them, and yeah, thank you one more time for this great conversation. Aditya, thank you so much. And may I add something, please? We are all, and I am, gratefully standing on the shoulders of giants. So, gratefully, as I am standing on the, as you said, the shoulders of my parents and also my previous generations, because, yeah, they are the product of the previous generations, but

I am also standing on the shoulders of the masters of homeopathy, Chinese medicine, and also Qigong. But specifically, as we are in the Qigong community, I cannot thank enough, I’m really grateful to Master Liu and also Britain, because without them, my journey wouldn’t have started in Zhineng Qigong. What I love about Qigong, our school of Qigong, Zhineng Qigong, is that Master Liu reminded me of how important my

own, the information that I put into my own energy system, is. Because coming to medical school actually takes away your faith. That is something that I think many people will agree with, especially in Western medical school. You totally lose your faith at some point because you see that people succumb to diseases that are incurable and you, despite within your heart, you are not like that, but you unconsciously

start to believe. I think that I came to Zhineng Qigong school at the right time because it was. I was in the most fragile time of my, I think, mental pattern about all these healings that happen and they relapse and the deaths that happen because of the diseases, which I couldn’t accept. How come, how is the treatment that doesn’t work? But coming to Zhineng Qigong, it reminded me

how powerful our mind is and how powerful my mind is to impact not only my health, but others that even thinking can change and create. So one point that I have to add is that a lot of, a lot of maybe relapses also that happen during the treatments, if we are only energetic-based doctors, is that we also have to train ourselves to go very deep. Even if I’m

a, if I am going to at this point only treat a person with Zhineng Qigong therapy, I might not be continuously successful in taking every deep pathology case into complete cure. It needs a really, I think, cultivated being and we need time for that. So it doesn’t mean that we have to get disappointed if a patient comes with a relapse. It tells something about the patient, but it

also tells something about me. I need to progress. And the question and the thing that I have to also remind kindly and humbly, is that every single disease has the possibility for complete cure, even the gravest ones. The question is, is the patient treatable or not? That goes to a lot of factors, including the destiny that the patient has come about, the fire of life that the patient

has come with. So everybody has a span of life defined. Span of life defined. Jing that has come. So we shouldn’t forget that we are treating people, not the diseases. So any single disease can be treated, but is the patient treatable or not? I have to be. I have. I am responsible for that part. I have to correctly diagnose the patient. What is the diagnosis? I have to

understand the patient in all planes correctly: physical, mental, spiritual, functional, cellular, physiological, everything. And also, I have to know myself very correctly. And a very, also, the very important thing that I have to remind is that when you sit with a patient, forget about yourself, whatever. We should be very aware that we shouldn’t take our state into our conversation because it will obscure our senses. And the reason,

the results will absolutely be different. You will not see the things that you have to see in the patient. But after all, the mind has the ability to treat everything. And I really hope, I always tell my patients that if you are praying for me, please pray that I have my magic stick, that only with one stick you’ll get better. I mean, cure forever. That is my wish

for myself and this wish for all my colleagues. But it needs time and cultivation. So we have to be patient. Now I know I wanted this. I thought this conversation was over, but we are back right into it. I do have another question here because I thought you said something incredible, and you said every disease is treatable, but the question is, is the patient treatable? Now, what does

that mean for you? Whether a patient is treatable or not? And if you are with someone who may be, my God, he or she is not treatable, can you actually change that so that he becomes treatable? Yes. First, we have to be very clear about this in our thoughts, that every single patient that has come, cancer, renal disease, end-stage diseases, they are treatable, and we have to be

very faithful about it. But we also have to respect the life mission of that person that we are not aware of. We do not have that much of, you know, open senses to understand everybody’s life. We are not the masters. At least, I am not. So there are many factors that I have to take into consideration. I have to do my work correctly. My work is that I

have to send correct information, but not give false hope. This is the important thing. You cannot sit in front of a cancer patient and say that I will cure you like this. It doesn’t work like that. You have to be very honest, but lovingly honest. And also, you have to be sure that you are, because we have grave diseases, and any mistake will lose time, waste time. So

you do not have much room to make mistakes. I have to have a correct diagnosis. Do not take any patient without a diagnosis. Make sure that the patient has a concrete western medicine diagnosis that you need. Then attempt to treat. The second thing is that whatever modality you are treating, be very faithful and very knowledgeable about the principles. Like I am practicing homeopathy, I have to know which

are the pillars of case taking, prescribing, and following up. And I have to give my prescriptions correctly. And then I have to, obviously, find in that state. And I have the intention that I have to immediately care for this patient. You are moving that energetic circle in favor of the patient. Because saying “go to,” I mean admitting or not, there are very adverse energetic fields also that are

affecting us because we are not conscious enough or not cultivated enough to not be impacted by them. Even the easiest is getting a common cold. So, as I said, you have to keep your correct mindset that every patient is treatable. You shouldn’t come to a cancer patient and say, “Oh gosh, what a grave situation.” No, the moment you tell that to yourself, things will move in a not

good way. You have to say, “Okay, we are in a grave situation, and I will do my best because I know the way.” And if you do not know what to do, please ask for help. It is very good in some diseases that different people from different modalities, knowing what they are doing, can contribute to one patient to propel the healing. I’ll tell you something interesting, if I

may. Two or three years ago, I had a referred case from another province. She was a 25-year-old girl with pancreatic cancer in an advanced stage. She was sent home to die. She couldn’t eat or drink anymore, was extremely cachectic, and was unable to talk. She was in a grave state. The family called me, and I said, “Okay, I don’t know what I will do, but let’s see.” I

just saw her for five minutes, took note of the visible symptoms, and prescribed. After a week, they called me to say she was eating, doing things by herself, and walking around. And even when she asked for help, her mother said, “You go and fetch it yourself.” And they just had gatherings together, they were happy. After a month, she died in her sleep after very much enjoying a party

they had in their house. So that is the beauty of correct treatment, be it homeopathy, acupuncture, Qigong, or anything that can bring the patient relief. It can bring palliation that is absolutely not accessible through Western medicine. I can boldly say that it is not possible in Western medicine. I mean, the patient actually didn’t die of pancreatic cancer. She just passed away in her sleep. And I think this

is one of the most beautiful deaths one can ever wish for. It means that the energy, essence, and her vital substances were all already depleted during the disease and were irreversible. Whatever I could do, that was not. I mean, the time was done, but she died very, very gracefully. That is, I think, a gift that we can also contribute to. I had one patient, my first patient actually,

that this happened with about a year after I started my practice, nine years ago. He was a 50-year-old man who had seven consecutive brain strokes. The spasms in his body were so intense that all his teeth were broken. He was given a tube to feed through and couldn’t speak. He was sent home. So they called me, they were from Tehran. At that time, we didn’t have video calls,

so I just took the case by phone, relying on the information from those around him because he couldn’t talk. We continued the medicine for six consecutive months. Then, in the seventh month, the girl said that my father is speaking 25 words. He’s using his hands, he’s eating. I started dental work to improve his teeth. He said that if you don’t see everyone seated, you wouldn’t notice who is

my dad. The only problem left was that he couldn’t walk. That was the progress. After I think eight or nine months, because he was so happy, he started to play volleyball. And because he was so happy that he played volleyball, he did it alone. But that was the beauty because the family said, “We are so grateful because he died when he was so happy, and we were so

happy.” When the time is set for a person, we can absolutely impact the quality of their life, and it is directly related to our quality, how knowledgeable, skillful, and cultivated we are. Those are very powerful, powerful words you’re saying there. Because we know that all our time is limited on this planet. And that is also something to be at peace with. But the question is, how do we,

how do we, when the time has come, how do we leave the planet? And what you’re describing here means it’s a very different experience than that of suffering and pain. It’s a joyful experience. And that in itself, you know, has obviously a great value to all parties, to the person, their family, and the surroundings. So I now understand what you say when you say every disease is treatable,

but not every person is. There are some limitations that we don’t understand, and we also have to be at peace with that. So I think this was a very powerful interview. Thank you once again, Aditya, and I hope that we have another opportunity with this podcast, maybe at a later stage, to have another conversation and learn more from your incredible knowledge and wisdom here. So thank you once

again, and I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you so much for the time and the opportunity that you gave me. I’m also very glad that when I share my ideas, I also learn from them. So it’s also a very nice opportunity for me to rehearse the principles of healing. Wonderful. Thank you very much, Aditya. We trust you enjoyed this conversation, and we invite you to subscribe

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