Children without discipline often lack self-control or focus – a challenge for parents, but for Mirjam Buck, children are at the heart of her Zhineng Qigong practice. Zhineng Qigong practices, have proven to capture children’s attention, allowing them to explore their innate abilities, extending beyond consciousness and the physical level. Being seen and respected are important to children, even at such a young age. By simply building a Qi field, removing ego and having a sense of community: discipline issues that some children initially faced have been addressed through Zhineng Qigong. Qigong enabled children to respect each other’s emotions and ideas, creating a safe space for them to express themselves freely.

Intention and it’s power has been demonstrated by these children countless times, through spoon bending exercises and even placing cut zucchini back together, Mirjam discusses. Children grow up in times where external validation and instant gratification are, seemingly, a part of daily life. A reference framework driven by ego and comparison. In Qigong, Mirjam taught them that sharing the Qi field as a group, sending information with supportive, positive energy as their fellow classmates achieve success won’t hinder theirs. They were just as influential and instrumental in their classmates’ success, showcasing the power of unity and oneness – a core principle of Zhineng Qigong.

La Qi, with pouring Qi down and the 8 verses meditation, are Qigong practices children really love. Children report vivid sensations of energy and light, Mirjam notes. Children of her class found doing La Qi and meditating with the eight verses of Zhineng Qigong was grounding and help balance them after a stressful day. Mirjam notes that she often learns from them too. Mirjam excluded herself in the group, one of her student’s asked “Why are you not saying we are wonderful? You forgot yourself.” This taught Mirjam about maintaining equality and connection within the group.

Parents and guardians know the importance of the formative years in a child’s life it’s well documented. Self-confidence, and knowing your true self through  Qigong is Mirjam’s purpose of these classes. Anxiety and insecurity are often the results of separation of self within childhood, the Zhineng Qigong practice provides a foundation of unity and emotional resilience, preparing children for the challenges of life.

Children bending spoons, reading books blindfolded, cutting vegetables in half and miraculously melting them back together. No, this is not the latest Harry Potter movie. This is happening at a regular school in Germany. The miracles don’t stop there. Our guest today, Mirjam Buck, has transformed the lives of a group of children, and while doing so, her own as well. Listen, listen to her incredible story. Today, I have got

Mirjam Buck with me. Mirjam is famous in the community because she got involved in working with Zhineng Qigong and children. This is what we’re going to explore today. Mirjam, welcome to the show. Let our listeners know how you got to work with children in the first place. Hello, everyone. First, thank you for inviting me, Torsten. Yeah, I got involved in children Qigong. I can’t remember the date exactly,

but it must be kind of eight, nine years ago that I participated in a workshop on children Qigong with Britta and Jianshe in Batsushnan. I remember that Britta told me about it, and I said, “Oh, it’s for children, but can I also participate?” because I felt so much joy already about this, and she said, “Yes, you can be kind of a coach like that.” So I came and

I also brought my friend Karen with me. I think there was about three days. Eight children were in the workshop. After this, me and Karen were so excited and so overwhelmed from this experience with the children that the universe kind of gave us the chance to give lessons in a primary school. We started three or five weeks after we participated in the workshop with Jianshe. From the beginning

we had four groups each week, in the primary school. We had a lot of experience because we had just did it. We just jumped in and started, even tough we didn’t know how we will do that. What did you do exactly, when you first came into the class and the children were there looking at you, expectingly. What did you actually do with the kids? In the beginning, we

were really planning the sessions because that also gave us a little bit more safety. We started with animals. We just always brought one animal, and then we told them a story from this animal, and by this, we started to do the movements. The Zhineng Qigong movements, with the elements movements? Yeah, we thought children always love animals, and that was a really easy way to catch their attention. They

really liked it to work with these animal stories and movements. There was this beginning, the starting, but after a while, we noticed that it was also not always so easy. Because we had quite a lot of children, and we had also their discipline problems, and they don’t like sometimes what we were doing, or they couldn’t be so silent, or whatever. And for me, it was not so easy

in the beginning to handle this because we had no plan. We had no advice to do. We just did it, and then after a while, it changed. The way we teach changed, just naturally, and became more creative, and more creative together with the children. Now I’m doing it alone, the children Qigong, since two years. Up to that, we always did every last together, Karen and me. Since I

do it alone, perhaps because I like this, I like to create lessons in the moment. That’s what I do now. I never plan anything, and now it’s more free, more creative, more together. And we create every lesson together, the children and me. What does that mean exactly? Are you still focusing on the physical exercises, or are you doing something else, or what is actually the content of the

lessons? Yeah, good question. I have more in the background, because I learned Zhineng Qigong. I have the theory in my body, or in my mind, in my heart. With this information, I come to the lesson. I think that’s already the Qi field. It’s already the information field. And then I can just be free because I trust the information. I trust also me. I trust the field. I just

feel, I’m never stressed anymore. I never feel stressed with the children like I felt at the beginning. Exhausting. It was exhausting, right? In the beginning it was exhausting because I thought I had to fight against the children, or I had to find discipline solutions. I don’t have that anymore. I also wondered how that came to this. I think that I really understood because I listened to the children.

They want to be co creative. And if you if you let them, if you give them the room, then they want to be a team. They want to be a community. Then they will just never be against something because they are seen. They can show up and they see and feel that you respect their ideas, you respect their emotions. You respect just like they come. No, never the

same. Now I have one group at the moment. I think the children has come already for one and a half years or more, and they never skip a lesson. They always come, always come. They love it, still love it. Even the parents wonder why they still want to come. And they give them opportunities, you can play piano, you can play whatever. They want them to do other things,

but they say, “No, I will go to Qigong.” I love that and when I asked them why? Why you are still coming, why do you love to come? Because we are inner friends. One girl told me, “We are inner friends.” She also told me what she feels about being inner friends in this group. She said, “One time you told us you couldn’t come to the lesson.” I couldn’t

come because I was ill, and the children heard that from the parents, that the lesson won’t be because I’m ill. They came together in that school meeting, in the playground, in the post. And they said, “Mirjam is ill, let’s send her some Qi.” And so they sent me Qi. She told me this situation, where they came together to send me Qi, was so wonderful. A wonderful feeling for

her because she felt this group, this community, doing the same information, good information, and also this wonderful feeling to help someone together in a group. And she said, that’s what I mean about being friends. It really touched me so much. I have that recorded also. I asked her if other people can listen to that. But she said, no, it’s just for you. So I have to respect that.

Absolutely and you were mentioning respect earlier when you said, now you respect what the children ideas are, what their thoughts are and how they’re feeling. I think this is an incredible experience you are creating. Because we’re living in a time where most teachers and parents are complaining about lack of discipline, lack of interest in anything, lack of being attentive, attention deficit, and stuff like that. It seems you

have the opposite experience with what you’re creating there, with Zhineng Qigong. Can you tell us a little more about the reactions or what you see in the children? What has changed, over time, when you were working with them. When you are kind of creating this together, do you see any changes in the children? Do you see any reactions from the parents or from the teachers? Maybe you can

share a little bit about that. Yes. It’s interesting because I’m working in the school where the kids come from. So I heard from the parents, but also from the teachers. That’s very interesting because I had one boy, he moved to another city, so he is not in my group anymore, but still in our heart group. He was in the beginning, first class. He was always shouting and screaming

in this class, disturbing it and kind of aggressive also. I don’t know how he came to me, but it just happened. He came in my group. For me in the beginning it was kind of challenging with him because he was always talking, always joking, always like this. I had one situation with him, where he and me really understood his potential. And that was a changing point because we

did needles magnetic exercise. He was already. His needle was already magnetic. But two girls, they had kind of bad information about themselves. They both said, “I won’t do this, I won’t manage it, I cannot do this.” And then I told the boy, “Well, you know, that is possible.” I just invite you to sit between these girls. Just sit there and just share your information. Just make your good

information wide in this room, that the girls might pick it up. Just try it. I invite you to try. And then he sat there like this. Really it was not a minute, it was less. Both girls had their needles magnetic. Then I asked him, how do you feel now? And he said, “I feel so wonderful.” I never thought that it could be so wonderful to just share the

information. Just be here doing nothing. My name is Leila Cupido and I’m the project manager of the students hub. Our team is constantly adding events, teachers, videos and other resources to take your practice to the next level. Improving the quality of your life and the life of the people around you. We do this work for you, so please use it. I would just like to add something here

because some of our listeners might not know this exercise. So basically what you’re doing is. You’re taking two needle needles, just ordinary needles. And with the power of your consciousness, you magnetize one of them so that you can pick up the other one by the magnet magnetic force of the first one. That is basically the exercise that you’ve been doing, right? Yes. So he could do it and

then what he basically did, if I understood it, he connected via what we call in Zhineng Qigong, the Qi. He sent this information so the other girls understood well. If he can do it, then I can do it, and then it worked, right? Yes, that’s it. That’s it. That’s what I always… That’s one thing I experience and also try to let the children experience this. That if one

can do, don’t be jealous, just be happy. Oh, if he can do it, I can do also, we can do it. Everyone can do. That’s what I also see, it changes. They are not so jealous anymore to what one child might do better. Because in the beginning, there was this competition like in school. He’s better than me. Oh, I’m bad. I’m not so self-confident because I can’t do

this. Yes. Now it changed because sometimes if we see there’s one child who can, he got this. He picked up the information. Like the last session, we did the spoons, we twisted spoons. Yes. And I was, but one boy, he had a soup spoon, other quite big. Yes, and he was so concentrated. And we built the Qi field before. And then he said, “Oh, it’s getting so hot.

I think I twist it now.” Then I said, “Okay, let’s all support him.” Just the other spoons beside, we support him and the supporters and the one who’s doing it. It’s the same importance because we are a group, we are a team. So he’s not better than others because he can twist the spoon. You are as important as him. If you are supporting him now, and then he

could twist it five times. This is something that, if any of the listeners have never been part of this experiment, usually blows your mind. I’ve been part of one of the workshops with Hunyuan Qi where the kids were doing the spoon bending. It’s incredible. 2, 3, 4 loops without any problems, without any falls So it is an incredible experiment. Obviously this is something that the kids love because

who doesn’t want to do that? And I love how you’ve basically made it a success of everyone because everyone was the same importance. Right? By supporting with their awareness and with their, with the information and with their Qi, this one boy so that he could do this. Incredible. I don’t even know what to call it. It’s a phenomenon at the end of the day. So I think that’s

amazing. No wonder they love coming to your trainings there because this feeling of being part of something bigger, this feeling of what it means to support other people to be successful. That’s a beautiful thing, and we don’t get as much these days. Where it’s all about who gets more likes on Instagram. He’s the winner. Here it’s about being all together, a wonderful experience. Yeah, and also I have

to tell you. Because this boy, he was so also blown away because of this spoon. Then at home, he asked his mother, “Can I have another spoon?” And he tried, and it didn’t work like this. Of course not. Then there was also a good experience for him to see, in a group. There’s so much more energy. And also it’s not only me, it’s the group. It’s the power

of supporting each other. That also was a good experience for me to hear. And it’s not pushing the ego. It’s because that’s also very important. What I think is important is not always telling them, “Oh, you’re so wonderful.” No, what’s important is that they become self-confident about this experience, to see I can do something. And normally everyone would say that’s not possible. But saying I can do, makes

them self-confident. Also, we do this seeing without eyes. I have this mindfulness, and meanwhile, they all can read blindfolded. We play Uno cards blindfolded. This sounds so spooky to somebody who’s never done that. I can imagine. You can imagine, but I also can do this. So for me, it’s normal. It’s not supernatural. It’s more natural, but we just forgot about it. What I experienced also through this, what

also the children told me, I also experienced by myself. If you can see like this. I don’t know if it’s a consciousness with what you see, but it’s possible. It happens. Something happens. And I think I recognize that also through disability, the children are more self-confident. It’s like they are so in touch with their body that something from outside won’t touch them, or they just know who they

are. Yes. That’s why I do these experiments. That’s why I do this intuitive playing with them or their experiments. It’s not about being supernatural, or super girl or super boy. There was one boy. He told me that when he got this with a spoon. We are not superman, we are not superwoman. We are super friends. He taught me, so that’s what I learned from them. That’s what they

tell me. They’re like inner friends, super friends. These other words that come from the children. That show me what is possible for mankind, for us all. That really touches me, and that gives me. Everything I give them comes thousands of times back to me. I’m not always so the one who is guiding everything. Sometimes it’s a child out of my group because that happens just. It happens because

the child says something and I say, “Oh, will you try this?” And then she guides or he guides. That’s also very important I see, that they grow through this. If they have the responsibility because that was their idea. I know one time, I also had it. That a boy, he had a great idea. And it also happened to me that I said, “Oh, you’re so wonderful.” I said

that also happened to me. But the kids are so self-confident that they show it to me what I said. And they won’t judge me for that because they’re self-confident. One girl said to me, “Do you know what you said there?” I said, “Yes, you are wonderful.” And she said, “Yes, but why are you not saying we are wonderful? You forgot yourself.” And I said, “Oh, wonderful.” And that

brought me back to the group and brought me back on the same level, on the heart level. Because if you also, if you’re judging someone, like thinking, “So he is so big,” thinking he’s so much better than me, then you are smaller and he’s bigger, and then there is not a heart-to-heart. Then there’s not this connection. But that happens to everyone. But the kids managed to see that

and they managed to change that again without judging, without shouting or letting you feel bad or something. Because they just say it from their heart. They’re just so connected. I think what you are doing there, basically, is you connect them so much with their power and who they are, that there is no need for any ego games. There is no need to be better. Thank you. I think

that is the reason when you say that if there is anything happening from the outside, they’re still standing there like a rock and knowing who they are, knowing they can handle whatever life serves up. So that’s a great thing to take away as a kid when you grow up. Rather than being full of anxiety and all of the other issues we have to deal with these days. So

that’s what I hear from the stories you’re telling at least, right? Yes. You put it in the right words. Thank you. I couldn’t say that better. That’s what I see through the work and where we are not doing the Lift Qi Up, for example. Because for them, children, are already so connected and it’s enough. If you tell them just be inside and it’s enough. They already, the Qi

is already there. What they like is La Qi and Pour Qi Down. Okay. The three things they really love. And the Eight Verses. They always ask me to sing them because they feel what it is. They really see. They tell me it’s special. The Eight Verses are special. They feel it so much. And if they’re really exhausted. From school or whatever. They come and say, “Today I need

the Eight Verses, to sing that. Will you sing them for me?” And then they are so warm. They sometimes say, “I have to put out my clothes, it’s so hot here.” And also through this La Qi. They tell me, “When I close my eyes and I do La Qi, or if I just go in my… my head, there’s so much light that I have to open my eyes

because it’s so much light, or there’s so much warm feeling and tickling inside when I do La Qi. Some one girl also told me today for the first time, “When I closed my eyes and did La Qi, I saw that Qi coming up from Ming Meng.” They see that, really see that. Some children also saw their body, their organs. They could explain how the brain looked like or

the heart looked like. They also could see in my body. Really, if you’re not limiting them or not saying that is not possible, or this is not possible, then everything is possible. Sorry, I just wanted to add one more thing. Because for me, this is very remarkable, because the exercises they enjoy most are the ones with the least action. It’s not with big movements running around. I mean

the Eight Verses. It’s a meditation in a language they don’t even understand. Yes. And La Qi is the slowest of all the exercises, the slowest movement. So it’s amazing how you’re leading these young kids into the calmness and the stillness. And that is something so difficult to get these days with most children and adults as well. So I’m really surprised that. they are at a stage where this

is what they enjoy most. That comes actually, I didn’t expect that, so that comes as a surprise to me, and I think it just shows how far they have gone already in their. Yeah. So congratulations to that. I’m not saying you’re wonderful because I’m further involved with that. We are all wonderful. Yes. You learn from the kids also. I learned. I’m learning already. But sorry, I didn’t want

to interrupt you. I just wanted to add that because it’s really something that would also surprise most of the listeners that have kids running around all day, now that these kids are actually so fascinated by something like the Eight Verse Meditation. Yes, but what perhaps is important also to know about how I am doing it? Everyone has to do its own experience. But I now, when I start

the lesson, I always make a kind of round. Everyone can tell… You can tell what made him happy today or also what was not good. Just can share what he likes to share or she. Then I ask the girl or the boy about his/her wish for today, if there’s anything they want to do today. And then I ask, “Do you need La Qi today? And how many?” So,

if the girl or boy wants to have La Qi, then I ask him, “Who, who, who of the children also me should collect the Qi for you?” And then the one is looking at everyone out of the group. And then leaving it to the child also to meet. But it happens more and more often now that they don’t need anything, right? No, I’m already full of Qi. I

don’t need anything more. So in the beginning, at the beginning, there was sometimes one girl who said, “I need 10 times. I really need so much.” But it happens less and less, normally they don’t need so much. Sometimes one or two times. What they love to do is these experiments: see without eyes, the needles magnetic. Always these two things again and again, we are sticking zucchini together. They

also love that very much. I don’t know that. You don’t know the experiment. We cut the zucchini and then right away we put it together. Perhaps not like it was before, but like, you know, like this. That’s it. Like this also, like in a 90-degree angle. Now, yes. And then we focus on it. In the beginning, everyone had his own or its own zucchini, but then we talked

about it. After a time, we thought it’s perhaps better if we have only one and we all concentrate on one. And that was also really more powerful. And they love that because. So what happens to the zucchini? I’m curious now. What is happening to the zucchini? The zucchini is growing together again. Are you kidding me? Now you’re even scaring me here. Yeah, yeah, it’s going together. And also

my. I don’t know if that’s normal. Perhaps it’s normal about zucchini, I don’t know. But I just do it because they love that. What I experienced is that if you take the zucchini like this and you put it in the fridge, and forget it for two days or three days, I did that several times. Then I put it out of the fridge and then I put some stuff

on it, like in a bag. Like one and a half liter of water, and at one time, three oranges, two apples and so on. And it was still holding. It was not… Oh, so you were weighing stuff on the zucchini. And it wouldn’t break apart. It was grown together so well. Okay, I understand. I met the experience that, I don’t know why, but that if you let the

zucchini a little bit time, let it calm, forget about it, like. Like the Qi. You send the Qi and then forget about it. Right. Then it’s even more tight. So it’s just an experience I made. Can’t explain it, but it’s like that. Well, I certainly know what I’m going to do while I’m cooking dinner tonight. So thank you for that inspiration. I’ve got a question. When it comes

to the reaction of the environment of the children. So do you get any responses from parents or from teachers? Yes. So about the boy, perhaps. I told about the boy who had the problems in the beginning. The teacher, she told me that he changed completely in his social behavior. One time, because the teachers sometimes, because they know I’m a Qigong teacher, they asked me sometimes to do Qigong

for 10 minutes with the whole class. And there I was in this class, and there were some kids out of my group, and also this boy. And it was one week after this experience he made, you know, with. With just sitting there sharing his information, you know, with the girls I mentioned. Then I was standing in front of the class and he was sitting right next to me,

and he whispered to me, “I will help you.” I will just share best information.” I said, wow, wonderful. And he was really so concentrated, and so calm, and so quiet because he really wanted to support me. Yes. And that really touched me so much that a boy who normally didn’t know where to go with this energy. Yes. Very destructive before, destructive behavior, and now it turns completely into

a constructive behavior. Yes. Because he experienced it in his own body. What he can, what his force is, what his potential is and that he can decide to disturb or to connect. And now he was really conscious. A kind of conscious choice he made. Yes. And that really was, that’s incredible. A seven-year-old boy. We changed his mind. That happens to me sometimes more with kids also with a

girl always disturbing. I told this story so often. That was because that also touched me in. It was quite in the beginning, where we did these lessons in school for four times a week. And I was alone in this lesson, and there was one girl sitting under the table, always shouting bad words, wanting to disturb and wanting to pick on me, with my ego. I felt that already

like. Then I thought, “Okay, how can I react, not like a normal teacher who would send her out and just stand in front of the door, stand there and that?” And I said, “Just close your eyes.” I don’t know how to behave. Just perhaps that comes an idea out of wherever. And then I heard myself asking her, “Do you know why you’re doing this? What it was?” I

think it must. It came must come from my heart. Because she reacted and she said yes, “Because I’m stupid.” And I said “Oh, okay and I said, “I understand. I invite you to come in the middle of our group to change your information.” And she came. She came. She came under her table. She was sat in the middle of the group. And then we did a common exercise,

like a warm shower, where every child told her something nice about her, like, “You, I like your blue eyes,” and just whatever came to them. And also, I told her something nice. And from the first child on, she gave each child her hand, looked the child in the eyes, and said, “Thank you, thank you, thank you.” And the whole group. And then after that, she sat in the

circle, and after this lesson, she was the most enjoying child of Qigong. She created her own Lift Qi Up, quick Lift Qi Up, also speaking with all the love coming like this. It was really, also, I learned from this, that the information level and information coming from the heart really can change in the moment. The heart, the mind, perhaps also the body I couldn’t look into, but it

changed her completely. She made friends after this. She didn’t disturb anymore. Also, in the class, she changed. One boy gave her, after this, where she sat in the middle and went back to the group, there was one boy sitting next to her, and he gave her a kiss, and she was like, oh, smiling. These are like with the boy that, the story also with this girl. This were

some of the most powerful stories I experienced with the children. I said, “When there was such a big ego before because there was perhaps very slow, very less self confidence, and then suddenly more self confidence, more trusting opening.” Then everyone could change. The world could change. That’s what I learned from this experience with the children. I mean, it’s a fascinating conversation we are having here. So I want

to thank you a lot for taking the time and sharing all this. I think you’re saying the right word here. If we manage to touch more people with this work, particularly young people, very young people, in this case, we can have a big impact on society and how we evolve as human beings and how we are with each other as human beings. And I can only encourage any

listener out there who’s a Zhineng Qigong teacher and is thinking, “Maybe I can take this into my school, or my kindergarten, or my youth groups now,” to use this podcast. Go to the authority, school authority, and say, “Please listen to this podcast, and let’s see whether we can create something like this in our place, in our school here, or our community.” That would be amazing. So thank you

very much, Mirjam, for sharing all this. I could go on for hours, and maybe if we get a lot of positive feedback here, we’re going to have a second conversation about that. And yeah. Do you have a website, Mirjam? Yes, quite new. Perfect. We’re going to put it in the show notes so people know how to reach out to you, and then who knows? So maybe there’s going

to be one school in Italy, and maybe there’s going to be one school in Uzbekistan in the future doing the same thing. It’s wonderful work that you’re doing there. Congratulations to that, and I look forward to our next conversation. Yeah, thank you very much for inviting me, and I hope the Spirit will reach the whole world. We trust you enjoyed this conversation, and we invite you to subscribe

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